![]() ![]() And so I guess if I was to distill it, it would just be getting to a real childlike quality sense of play. And she’s got a great bullshit detector, so she knows if something on the page or something that I’m doing or something in the scene just doesn’t feel right or real. So one of the things I tried to steal every day and then will try to steal on other projects moving forward is her ability to just pop right into the moment. What specifically did you learn from her? If I followed her lead and just listened to what she was doing, it often took me to the right place. It was all very much like that last scene. So that was the fun of it and the challenge of it. And then you’re in incredible fear of your life and kind of looking in the mirror and wondering what you’ve become. One minute you’re in a screwball comedy and the next minute your heart’s breaking because you’re kind of losing your sense of self or the love of your wife. I was often wondering how to do it, because it’s really a little bit of a tightrope to walk. ![]() It’s funny because the entire season, even up to that end moment, I was constantly turning to Kaley, who’s so facile in this genre and with this tone. What was it like finding the beats of this couple connecting in this extremely dark moment? In that final scene, Nathan and Ava are sweetly chatting while cleaning up the blood of their friend. With all eight episodes now bingeable, Messina chats below about why he wants to play Nathan again and how he figured out the series’ tricky tone. By the end of the series Nathan and Ava are in a much better place than when they started, but they are also, you know, accessories to murder. Instead of turning him into the police, Ava concocts a plan to revitalize her and Nathan’s marriage: They’ll turn Matt into content, getting him to share his side of the story with blood-thirsty listeners. ![]() His life gets a jolt of excitement when Ava, a true-crime obsessive, figures out that their plumber, Matt, just happens to be the Westside Ripper, who has been terrorizing Los Angeles. Nathan starts the series as a morose tennis pro, mourning his failed career. “I was happy to think, ‘Oh, maybe we get to do more and I could explore going even darker and further into the kind of vortex with Nathan,'” he tells The Hollywood Reporter. It’s a shocker of a cliffhanger from creator Craig Rosenberg, but one that excited Messina. 'The Traitors' Production Designer Took Inspiration From 'Clue' and 'Knives Out' ![]()
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